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It was a low year for gold production, so you can sell your 10 pound rock to me.
Why are you selling it and what are the reasons you want to sell it now?
Do you want me to set the price? and will you accept my valuation? It’s cash and carry to strangers. Send the picture to the corp@origsix.com
One picture will never determine the value of a quartz with gold.
Hi I am new to the forum but have been interested in gold and a compulsive hunter for a while . I was wondering how to determine what a quartz rock with gold in it is worth and where to sell it with out getting an expensive education. any help would be appreciated . the rock weighs more than 10 pounds I can send pics if it helps . thanks again.
I wish Mr. Sorlein could have
known my uncle, William Forman
who was a well-known mining
attorney both in Nevada and
Nation-wide and was the Chair
of the mining and metals di-
vision of the American Bar Assoc. He was raised in To-
napah, NV; went to Hastings,
not Harvard but was a super
lawyer in his field. Both he
and Mr. Sorlein were very
gifted and lucky and missed.Many of you may remember Dick Sorlien. I encourage you to go to our web site under Company, past directors and read his resume. When the power came on last night we found an e-mail from his wife, Becky, sent January 7 that Dick died that morning. She wrote, “Dick enjoyed so much his association with both of you and the Sixteen to One board and crew, so thank you for being a special part of his life.” Following is my response. Dick was one of my mentors. Here was a double Harvard grad, a Philadelphia lawyer and a very important businessman, who took an active interest in our gold mine, our company, our community and me. Words will not express his loss. He would drive us crazy at times with the way he worked out issues or problems, kind of a delving into the what ifs of the situation. He was a thorough man with the highest ideals and ethics. He was a rare individual amongst lawyers, more of a throwback to the American lawyers who signed our constitution in 1787. If any of you have a story to share about Dick, please do so for me and the rest of us who hold him dear in our hearts.
January 11, 2008
Dear Becky,
Cai (Dick’s nephew) told me several months ago of Dick ‘s condition. We talked about how much Dick influenced our lives and what a joy to have him in our lives. I have many memories that are not only in my head but continue to affect the way I live. In other words, Dick is still with me and always will. I have said this before. Other than my father, Dick has been the greatest male influence in my business persona. He taught me so much. His thoughtfulness gave and gives me courage to persevere when times are rough. I know his interactions with me were consistent with the way he conducted his professional life and led his demanding business life.
I also had several occasions to be with Dick during non-business times. One lasting memory was when the two of us traveled to Arizona. He wanted to see everything, didn’t want to miss a beat. We drove by some museum or interesting place on the way to our destination. After passing by this interesting place he said, “Wait, stop the car. Let’s go back and look at this.” I was taken back because we had to see one of his friends and time was against us. Dick probably caught my concern and said, “We may never pass this way again so let’s go have a look.” I think that says a lot about one way to pass through life. Everyone is busy but there are times when what is before you at that moment becomes preeminent. Dick reinforced that for me. I don’t remember what we wet back to see but I do remember Dick’s expression as he quickly mulled over the pros and cons of taking time away from one important thing and giving it to another. I am sure this became routine in his legal practice and could be one explanation about his deep love for gold mining.
I remember one time we packed thousands of ounces of gold out of the mine during the time the directors were meeting. Everyone was excited, especially Dick. It did not represent money to him but something much more. I could see it in his eyes and the way he held and looked at the quartz and gold. To remember these past events brings tears to my eyes as I write,
We were twenty years and a day apart in age. Until a couple of years ago I never gave a thought that Dick would not be here to counsel with. His advice was from his heart and tempered with his brilliant mind. He deserved that mining highest award, the gold hard hat, we had so much fun giving him.
There is nothing I can tell you about Dick that you don’t know. You made him so happy. He bounced with joy around you. I wish I could be there next Monday to see you, his family and friends and be a small part of those who knew, worked and played with him.
My love and well wishes are with you.
MichaelI stood there whiff of powder smoke the wonder of its smell.
The open stope above me the broken muck below me fell.
I kicked away the quartz
I watched a boulder fall.
I shoveled away my youth
it was my life all in all.
I moved away a mountain
one shovel at a time.
I threw away my youth
my hell was my sublime
I wondered in the muckpile
as I scraped and picked the face.
How others could endure
to live such a boring race.
Those who lived in town
in their “normal” life they lose.
They never make a miner and are only good for selling shoes.
They will never see the hand of God Never seen the plea.
With every round that I took
His work was given me.
I bow to the Master the maker of the earth.
His servants called the miner
they truly know His worth.
The gold is for the seeking
where the vein matrix runs
Powder smoke in heaven
like ounces by the tonsThe “Sierra” free magazine has
a really good writeup on the
Sixteen to One that should
also appear in other media.
The article is relatively well
done and speaks well for the
mine.I was recently told by a clamper that the reason the
chinese remains were exhumed
and sent back to china was that
their bodies were considered by
them and others to be owned
by the emperor in china (but
their spirits stayed?)The Tightner house was built
by a Mr. Locey who was related
to the wife of John Armstrong
who was my Granpa’s brother
and partner in Armstrong Bros
in town.With it being October and all I was hoping some people would come forward with some ghost stories.
As kids in Alleghany we were all convinced that the Tightner Mansion was haunted. It had been vacant for many years. We all heard the piano playing one night and ran home as fast as we could.
Then there was the boot ghost. A certain resident in town whose name I will not mention would put his boots side by side each night when he went to bed. Every morning one boot would be moved so that it was perpendicular to the other one. This lasted for about a year then ceased.
This is a bit out of character for the recent climate of debate, but of serious consequence:
Next year’s election’s outcome may spell out a prescription for behavior if we’re not vigillant…We don’t need that.
We don’t need a facist directive to dictate what we wish to achieve in the private sector. (Hmmm, who does everyone think I’m pointing to?)
It’s this blatant: whether there becomes a mandatory set of rules of behavior or not…whether freedom rings, or just goes “thud” when we try to ring the bell.
Let’s all beware. Watch Out! Freedom is at stake, when a complete faction of the population is identified as being stupid and dumb enough to buy into it, it’s prudent to stand up and talk, write, or scream.
If I need to spell out the rational for my entry tonight, I am well prepared to explain when anyone asks.
I’m preaching to the choir.
Bullion is gold, silver or platinum in a smelted or refined state in the shape of bars, ingots or buttons etc. prior to coinage. Refined fine bullion is generaly used to create coins. Once coined it is called a bullion coin.
There’s nothing to be scared of. People love ghost stories! Actually it was the heater kicking on that kept my friends awake.
I’ve never heard of a ghost doing physical harm to anybody. I have a theory that people who come here for the first time are more sensitive to paranormal activity than those of us who have lived here for a long time. Then there are the Tommyknockers…..plenty of ghost stories from underground. I once felt a very definitive “tap tap” on my right shoulder underground but nobody was there.My aunt also told me about the
chinese cemetery near town. The
last time she was there she
asked about and no one could
recall where it was located.
A Clamper friend of mine told
me that it was a Chinese custom
that the bodies were buried
here and later exhumed and
shipped to China, so maybe thereare no more chinese buried
in Alleghany, but maybe their
spirits are still around, no?RE: Martin’s Aunt – yes it was Mountain House that had a reputation for being the last place a person was known to have traveled to before vanishing. That was in the early 1900’s.
Is anyone in Alleghany missing a long red plastic scooper spoon? One turned up unannounced in my utility drawrer after a trip up the ridge last spring. None of my neighbors nor I had ever seen it before. I put it on top of my refrigerator and it hasn’t moved lately.
Well first i want to say thanks for the info, keep it coming…Rae Bell from my reseach you are the curator at the museum and you might know what’s really going on… I’ve learned a lot from the museum web site, but can’t find any thing else about ghost’s/hauntings. Martin Newkon let me know if ther is any thing eles to the story or where to find more info. gfxgold I found this site through your site and I signed your guest book. I also read the story about the friend of yours that went to the Morning Glory Mine&Mill. The crew has only been in the house for 2 weeks and they have at least 8 more weeks, and after that I will be able to give you a better story. I was going to go stay a night or two with my husband but I don’t think I will(scared) of the house.
I had some friends stay in that house about a year ago and they didn’t sleep either.
Northern Line Builders can view
a revised version of my Aunt’s
comentary just before Rae Bell’s. I ran into key trouble
inputing the first one. sorryI would say, Yes.
http://www.gfxgold.com/stories.htm
If you would like to have your story told on my website, send me an email with as much detail as possible. gfx@gfxgold.comThe house is right in the middle of town, with doors that go nowhere. I don’t think it’s Helga(ha ha)with her whiskers on her snout. It seems to be a spanish woman. All I know is that the entire crew staying in the house never gets a full night sleep. Martin Newkom you stopped mid sentence on your first responce, what was the end?
I hear there’s a ghost named Helga who likes to steal things. An odd gal she has whiskers on her snout. Her taste is quite whimsical, a plastic jug of water, a roller blade, a hose nozzel even pruning shears!! Neighbors beware the wild wooley one!
My aunt Helen who lived in
alleghany from 1900 to about
1915 talked about a mother and
son who away from town had
a boarding house where miners
and especially Hi-graders would
go for accomodations and never
be seen again. I believe is was
at Mountain House or a similar name.I don’t know about any house
in alleghany but my aunt Helen
Armstrong Covell in the commentary she gour company is putting fiber(phone lines) in the area and is rentig a house from mike miller in alleghany, and they say the house is haunted, they have been hearing stories! anyone have info?????
All of the miners in Alleghany offer prayers, hope, and good luck to the rescuers and condolences to the families and friends on the surface. May the Goddess of Mining protect those in danger in Utah.
Scoop does not watch television and has seen no television coverage about this tragic situation. Scoop just read two newspaper stories. For the sake of one of America’s most needed and dangerous occupations, an occupation that is known as vital to insure a free society, let’s look for the truth behind the tragedy and keep an open mind. America, through government guidance and industry enforcement and practices, has as safe a work environment as any country in the world. It is not by chance that this is true.
If these old foundery co. were
still around they could tell
some wonderful stories. There
were at least two in Marysville
the Empire and the Marysville.
The Empire made “Monitors” for
hydraulic mining; the Marys-
ville made flat-cars for the
lumber mills and at least one
steam engine for the “Meteor”
an early steamer on Lake Tahoe.Hello! This is in response to request by Barry…
I am the Great Great Granddaughter of Charles Sylvester Card who started Card Iron Works. My father, Uncle and Grandfather all worked there. Feel free to contact me. I will try to find out any answers that you may have. My father & my uncle know a lot about the Iron works and love to tell about it.
We have quite a bit of documentation, catalogues, invoices etc. from over the years still in our possession.
Look forward to hearing from you. martacard@myway.com
By bn1259507/15/2006 9:53AM
Hello,
I would like to find out more about my CS Card Iron Works Mine Car. Does anyone know if this company still exists?
Thank you so much for the help.
BarryOnce again, Good Luck!!
The Company gave me permission to take pictures underground. I have some good ones but there is a problem with getting them on the web site.
The technical support lives in Hungary and is aware that the mine office is presently unable to add pictures to the site. As soon as it is corrected, you will see the new raise on the 800 level where everyone expects to find a pay day. This topic will be moving to the Miscellaneous topic soon.
It took three days for miner Mark and his helper, Wade, to build the chute and install the slusher that will be used to pull the broken rock into the cars. The vein is very flat, so even though Mark will be running a raise, gravity won’t work to clear the round. Once up about thirty feet the raise will branch off in three directions, resembling the look of a cactus. Keep your fingers crossed, say a prayer or two or just wish for some good luck in finding Mister Pocket.
JR Lientztz
I can’t finger out what yuor trying to say.
Better even more why your not nocking down the doors at the mine nsted of writin from the cumputre. GFo there and talk to IaN and quit being a fake miner.
Mr. Miller, I take it you don’t have any job opening at this time. Thank you for your time and patience.
Jesse
It’s a pleasant surprise to wake up to your humor. See last three entries below.
You can be my chuck tender any round in the sixteen to one veins. One hundred years of experience will get you a try out but no guarantees for employment. Those with no experience have turned out okay as well for quite a few men who continued a career in mining. Before an offer of employment to anyone is extended, experienced or otherwise, you will be given an invitation to attend a forty-hour program that is provided by the 100 year old guys. You need this as a prerequisite to work underground.
The last time the invitation/ program was advertised and given three men were selected as “fit to be employed in the mine”. One left the first day around lunch time.. One showed up for work a week after completing the program. He called to say he had a personal issue to deal with and never returned. The last “want-to be-a-miner” finished the training, asked for a week to get his things in order and we never saw or heard from him again. Those 100-year-old guys teach, demand and expect compatibility and growth no matter who or how long they work.for the company.
If you still want an application, send your name, telephone number, address and e-mail address to any of the addresses you wish. You two will be moving to the miscellaneous topic. Thanks for your wit and interest. Oh, as far as the ultraviolet light goes. Sometimes it is effective in identifying minerals. It has been scientifically proven that all the minerals give off electrical energy that distinguishes them. Detection looms large in our technology future.
Our crew is not camera shy. Gold is an evergreen topic with many facets. CT, make the American Miner a reality.
I would like to inquire about job openings at your company. Would you please advise me on how I may apply for work, preferably as a miner, entry-level miner, or as a nipper. Also, please let me know how much experience I’d need if you had any job openings. A lot of other places I’ve applied to require 100 years experince, I hope this is not the case with your company. J/K !
if i understand correctly all minerals give off a glow under ultraviolet light .
seems to me there could be alot of benefits if such a show came to town and did a piece on the mine. or perhaps the show “cash & treasures” . seems we fit the criteria for either.
or perhaps our own “AMERICAN MINER” series like the chopper,hotrod,idol,deadliest catch genre.
My granddad and his bro. john
did well in the store there in
town and they took their earnings into the Eldorado mine
and lost their “tails”. They
even hired a recognized geologist to give the an opinion on a direction. Well
he gave them the wrong one:
they had to “shoot” it all.
That was well towards their
tenure at town (1915).Scoop has the answer for you Martin. Yes, Foote was a key mining man in Alleghany and Grass Valley. On this web site GO to Forum topic “From the Sixteen Archives”, Page 3, to 02/25/2004 by Michael Miller and you will find a most interesting story.
Who can tell me if Foote who
built the Foote Crossing road
had anything to do with manage-
ment of the Empire mine? I understand the he went broke
building it.Just turned the computer on and am shocked and saddened to learn of Al’s death. I doubt that any Alleghany hard rock miner or any people familiar with the history of mining during the 1970’s through 1996 won’t feel sadness about this news. His training was old school. He practiced old school mining ethics as long as I knew him and from what I heard all his life. His greatest legacy may be the many young men who worked under his strict guidance. Some ran from his demands, but I am sure that those who survived under his supervision, as well as those who fled, gained some great lessons in life from the experience. We always said, Al, that gold was in the next round. You believed it and I believe it. Maybe now you know.
Death of a young Old Timer:
“Albert Lee Wasley, 74, died Thursday, Jan. 25.” Although I did not know Al real well my brief association was indeed a pleasure. Dorothy and I had a quick education on hard rock and “under the cap” placer mining after meeting him in the winter at the Henness Pass turnoff. Later he showed me the complications of trying to get gold out of the Ruby. It was sad to see the Ruby so mismanaged that he had to leave. The obituary is in the Union today (Sat. 1/27/07)- AuthorPosts
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