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The level of constitutional ignorance displayed by Gold Hound proves why success in the private sector is essential, and why there really is a severe threat to this country posed by those wanting to thwart such endeavors all in the name of Commie fairness.
Hey Gold Hound, there’s nothing in the US Constitution about the right to be heard.
YAWN. Thank you for giving us proof to the points earlier made about the nonsense of unaccountable or unknown persons and the value(none)of their opinions. Yawn.
Mr. Miller, Officers and Seated Directors.
This Forum was started with the intent of sharing thoughts.
To much lately I have been appauled by the way our First Ammendment Rights have been bulldozed by either Mr. Miller or someone on this Corporations Staff.
It is no wonder everyone wants to log into this site anonimously with no record for the exact fear of what Mr. Miller (and I say this because he is responsible for his staff and officers) did in exposing the position of Au Master, Master AU Miner and the other guy. Nobody wants to live in a country where they are supposed to have this freedom to speak out but it is being abused by a dictator namely Mr. Miller because he wants the law to work for him, but he does not share the basis to allow this freedom across the board.
Mr. Miller you say you are a US citizen, but don’t you know you have a responsibility by citizenship to uphold the same First Ammendment Rights to everyone.
There has to be a real person behind every user name, but after your little stunt of basically saying if you don’t say nice things about me, Im going to go tell my mommy and anybody else who will listen!
Well, every person here has a right to criticise you and if you don’t like it you can resign your position and leave this company. But just because you make this descisions, if there wrong then your going to here about it.
In fact it surprises me someone has not sued you and your management and board already for some of the descisions and positions you have taken?
But, what do I know, Im just a figment of your imagination, and you certainly will not defend my right to freedom of speech!
And I did log in ononimously so I guess this is one more person you can remove because I am not playing the dictator game fairly.
To all of you in the 16 to 1 cyber world and the real world of the mine – a Merry Christmas to all and a Happy – come on MR. POCKET!!!!!!! – New Year. See ya at the annual meeting if not sooner – I still plan on doing my part in contributing my help to the work day concept that I created.
For the moment, forget about drilling the quartz. From your description more serious and dangerous work faces you than looking for gold. The place to begin in reopening an abandoned adit is at the portal. Do not skimp on eliminating a sudden collapse of the brow or sloughing from the sides. Timber sets and 2-3 inch lagging, or if you can afford a piece of culvert, are first priorities. If wood is used, MSHA requires fire suppression ( a sprinkler system or a fire retardant paint, which costs about $60 per gallon. Once safely inside, ventilation as well as ground support become priorities. Compressed air is the preferred power for the work you described. Electrical wire is costly for prospecting. Buy the biggest compressor you can afford and make it diesel not gasoline. .
Next week your entry and this response will move to the miscellaneous heading. Please keep it active at its new location. The first old mine I opened up was the Morning Glory in late 70’s. I made lots of mistakes.
Good luck. By the way, my crew responded to the Tennessee mine in Sierra County a few years ago to rescue a man and a boy from a caved portal. It turned into a recovery mission when we discovered they were buried under a collapsed portal. We recovered their bodies about 6am after working through the night. It was an especially sad day, and ignorance or exuberance contributed to the loss of life. Don’t let it happen to you.
I have a hardrock tunnel in which I would like to follow a vein and in some cases, I would just like to take out some of the quartz. Do to the amount of work, I was thinking about a hammer drill and or a electric rock buster, I guess it is a smaller jack hammer. This tunnel is off the road but I do have a 4 wheeler which would allow me to take the generater and other equipment in. Probably a 3-5 watt generator. I can’t use dynimite becuse of the spotted owls breeding most of the summer so I have to use these other methods. Suggestions as to what to use size of gen , drills rock hammers or alternatives would be greatly appreciated.. I am reopening this tunnel from the thirties, which did produce at that time. Thanks again.
The Sierra County Sherrif’s Office has several of the newspaper stories regarding this incident hanging on the walls of its office in Downieville. The Child actually disapeared from the yard of the family’s vacation home in Goodyear’s Bar. (near Downieville) Evidently the child was never found. It is believed a mountain lion got him.
P.S. A message to RICH below, yes we would love to hear more of your stories from Alleghany !hi guys,
my name is tracy ward and i’m a reporter for the oakland press in pontiac, mich.
in researching a story about a 1945 murder in our area, there was a story about dickie tum suden, a 3-year-old gold heir who turned up missing in downieville, california.
the only thing they found was his mitten.
i only have half the story and i’ve run the name online, but no luck.
i was just curious if they found him and what happened with it… it was probably a pretty big case at the time.
any help would be appreciated.. i was just curious about what happened to this poor kid.
thanks,
tracy, heyskoop@aol.comP.G.& E.doesnt care about the law they do whats best for them . They are still mad about being dereged and have been taking it out on us ever sense.
They dont want gold just money so that they can buy off a few more of our elected officals. Golds to easy to trace.NEW COMMERCIAL!!!
Original Sixteen to One.
Where you can relieve the dream of a 49er and touch the legendary whopper and buy gold but you better bring your VISA CARD as CASH is not accepted here.
lol…maybe an SNL skit. 🙂
Lets ponder something…
What is safer?
the coordinates of the dynamite beemed from a secure palm device to a secure satellite to a secure server in the doj server farm or….
The sheriff that has the location of our dynamite on a memo in his office in a file cabinent with a cam lock? Not to mention how many people have access to said file cabinent and with or without the keys to open it.
Who is to say all that info isn’t stored in a database on a computer in cali anyways? Anyone wanna take a bet on that?
Oh well, its the same mentality people have about paying bills online they would rather send a check in an envelope that everyone knows is a payment and put it in an unsecure mailbox outside their house to have the mailman who may or may not have it always secured deliver it to the sorter which may or may not take your check to get it mailed to another mailman to put it in another unsecure box or B)pay online with secure encryption to another computer with secured encryption behind a firewall and not to mention your probably paying on a visa debit card which your only liable to 50 bucks of unathorized charges by federal law?
Tough choice.
So Mike do you bank online at all? What is the big deal about letting the government know where the dynamite is anyways and what is your guarantee when the authority when back to her truck she didn’t just put it in anyways?
Sometimes finding the real battles in life are half the battle.. IMHO, you shoulda just let it go.. BIG DEAL!
Does anyone out there know of where we can get parts for G/D slushers We need some stuff for our old 5 cyl beast. I have had no luck on the net. I know there is a bunch of them out there. Let me know what ya have. –Mike Nolen
Mockingbird Mine
Midpines Ca.
209-966-3346Hello All,
I’m a new member, registering as “Wombat16to1” (John) [it told me that plain old “wombat” name was already taken here ~ is there another wombat here?]. Allow me to introduce myself and interests. I am a geologist in Australia, and also one who has gone back to university for extra degrees, studying Social Sciences, with a view to entering consultancy work in Earth AND Social Science arena (or anything to do with either if work is scarse).
I have a piece of student assignment research to do, which will last into 2004. The topic is: “THE PLACE OF GEOLOGY AND MINING IN SOCIETY”.
I feel the Mother Lode country is an excellent place to study this, and Californian gold history also has a great deal in common with the Australian goldfields as I’m sure most people realise.
If anyone has views about the (changing nature) of the place of geology and mining in society please send me views, material or URL references to john.mail@ozemail.com.au or to PO Box 264, Summer Hill, NSW 2130.
Cheers for now … John
Ditto – the more news about the mine and what is going on would be a very positive step towards keeping us all informed about our investment.
Thanks for changing the current picture in the “Photo Album”. It’s good to see that “Normal”, everyday life still goes on at the 16 to 1. Let’s get those camera’s clicking. I’m sure everyone would like to see 16 to 1 “Life”, above or below ground.
http://www.kitco.com has an interesting article about the current price of gold. “African strike deadline, weaker U.S. Dollar drives gold higher”. Go to: http://www.kitco.com/ind/egs/jul282003.html
I have been doing research on an
old stock certificate. I can’t find any information.
Can anyone shed any information on what happened to California Comstock gold mine? I believe its dated 1937. Make my day!CONTACT
DOUGLAS MORGAN MINING LTD.(GHANA).
QUANTITY:150KGS:
PURITY:22 CARATS.
CONTACT:MR.ASEMEDU ON:
TEL:+23324286627
+233277409855.
Email:asempandass@yahoo.comwe’d like to invite everyone to come and see our mining park. we have many exhibits and interesting things to see. check out our site at http://www.tonopahnevada.com for pix and info.
First, if it’s for real you have to quietly asertain whose property it is on. If it’s on your, do you own the mineral rights? If it’s in nugget form or in dust it can be extracted easier than if it were a lode deposit or a potential open pit operation which will be expensive in time and money. Also, what mining regulations govern potential removal in the area of the suspected find. In addition, the chemical make-up of the potential ore may be too complex to economically separate.
The mine office, I’m sure, would not mind assisting with a few of your potential questions.
I have found some gold
in my homeland and I don’t
know what to do.Congratulations on Court victory!
Ore…Concentrates…the tiny spects of gold.
While Gordon is correct regarding the purity of quartz ore, wall rock or vein material with specific gravity greater than 2.7 and less than 19.3 [sp for fine gold] will combine upon ignition. Blasting the ore at the face is the cheapest way to breakdown ore for further classification and concentration.
And MikeG :…A pint’s a pound, the world around.
Yes, the weight of an equal volume of mixed concentrates will weigh about the same at any mesh. The volume may increase or decrease. Miners’ Luck with the search. The range of weight of an equal volume is 7.3 to 11.8.
I was wondering if anyone here happened to know what the approximate weight of a cubic foot, or yard or any other volume, of concentrated (crushed to maybe 600mesh) ore would be? I realize it is not constant and will be determined by the amount of various minerals, but an average or maybe the heaviest to be expected would help me tremendously. Thanks, MikeG
Since 16:1 is offering its gold collection for 1.7 million, you might consider: 1) ebay auction with a reserve price (Eminen’s house brought in zillions, and lots of publicity), 2) the old adage “You can sell anything if the commission is right,” might apply, so consider raising the offering price to 2 million and pay a 10% commission. That should get someone’s attention.
I am writing a paper on hard rock gold mining and would like more information on the x-ray tech. for finding gold in the mines walls.Any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks for any response
I have some wind fall dougles and other firs which I need to split for timbers, other wise I will have to drag purchases supports down a 1/2 mile trail. I have the power saw,but will need other recommended items such as specfic wedges, mall etc. I also need to the science and specifics of the actual splitting. Some of the wind falls are 10-15 years old, I am not sure if I have any fresh timber. Maybe I could talk the Forest Service into letting me fall a selected tree. The property is not patented but the property has been in the family prior to 1955, actually since 1901. I am still learning so be patient and I would appreciate any and all comments. Thanks. Bob
I’ve been trying to take the 16 to 1 Miner for the day tour for almost 4 years, but this last weekend it finally became a reality. This was truly a dream come true – one that probably started when I was 10 years old, and my parents took my brother and I to Calico Ghost Town in Southern California.
My day started at 08:00 with a trip to the Gold sales dept. For me this was definitely the most ‘dangerous’ part of the tour!
Then the Mine Manager, Jonathan Farrell, came up to take me down to the upper shop. There I got my belt, and received training on the use of the emergency CO breathing device and a warning on how important this device is to the safety of the miners.
I then got a helmet and light, and it was off into the mine at the 800 level.
Jonathan & I rode the skip down to where Roy was working on the de-watering pumps.
We then went to get a Fin hoe from a very impressive stope, and see the progress on another area that was being opened up.
Then we went down to the 2100 level where the crew was working on opening up/de-watering the shaft down to the 2400 level – Not a job for those with a fear of heights!
All the while we traveled through such beautiful white quartz drifts! And Jonathan’s extensive knowledge of the geology & history of the mine proved quite adequate to answer my endless stream of questions!
We met up with Larry, Billy Joe, and Frank for lunch. Frank was tramming out the waste rock, and Billy Joe and Larry were mining up under the historically mined areas of the 600 level. Both have found gold, and are in promising ground.
Larry took me up to his area, showed me where the big gold pockets were found, and gave me an overview of what to do to work safely in that area. Then Larry put me to work running the slusher while he was working with some of the larger boulders. I was just starting to get a feel for the slusher, when I realized that I was bound up on something. Larry signaled for me to stop. Turns out that there was a 4+ ton rock that had decided to impede my progress. Much to my delight, Larry concluded “Gotta Blast”!
My initial match with an 80 series jack-leg pneumatic drill proved to be less than successful. It was probably tough for Larry to tell if I was drilling, or riding a bucking bronc! However, with some coaching from Larry (use the leg to feed, not to control the angle!), the second hole, after Larry started it, went much smoother!
Now it was time to blast! Larry filled the hole with an ammonium nitrate based powder. And Larry even let me light the fuse! Now that was definitely a kick!
We made our way back to the 800 level for the blast. While the smoke cleared, Billy Joe started me on the slusher working his stope. It was a dual drum brake unit, so it was a little different, but also a kick in the pants to operate! Then Larry and I headed back up into his stope to find only small fragments of the troublesome boulder remaining!
We continued slushing until Billy Joe was ready to blast his 6 rounds. Billy Joe let me light the fuse for his blast (I was really beginning to like this part!). Larry, Billy Joe and myself gathered under the steel sets farther down the 800 level.
We were quite secure, but I was still able to feel a slight blast wave from each of the rounds.
That moment was the climax of what had already been a perfect day. I really had a new appreciation for the determination, guts, and raw power that an underground pocket mine like the 16 to 1 requires before it will relinquish any of its well-protected treasure!
I want to take this tour again! I would sure recommend to anyone with an interest in mining, especially historically accurate underground Gold mining, this is a must-take tour.
I am so grateful that the crew at the 16 to 1 let me experience a piece of their world. Now 50 years from now I won’t by laying on my deathbed saying “Ya know, I sure wish I’d taken that tour at the 16 to 1”.
Thanks to all of you that keep my dream alive every day at the 16 to 1!
-MarkMy good friend owns mines south of you around Bagby but has never mined them. i want to encourage him to let me help him start small.Where can i find the equipment to begin small scale hard rock mining such as shoring engineers, mill, z-myte etc.
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