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  • David Ingraham
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    Martin Armstrong’s statement is an anthem in its self. It is good to here the cry out for the soul of freedom so eloquently stated.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Squeeze The People

    The money we paid into the Social Security and Medicare trusts has been stolen by the politicians. Not only did they nab our money but they jerked around the value of our monthly payments by reporting bogus CPI figures. Who really knows the final outcome corcerning any benefits “at all” coming to us from the current Ponzi scheme that replaced these Trusts. It appears that fighting wars on foreign soil is more important than taking care of our senior citizens.

    One just has to google the Vatican Bank foreign accounts 2010 to learn that U.S. politicians have millions on deposit there. That’s the real Litmus test that could explain where some of our Social Security and Medicare withholdings from our paychecks ended up. It is provable that the source of these millions was the U.S. Treasury.

    Some of Bob Chapman’s comments from today’s Saturday International Forecaster:

    That fact that Moody’s and Fitch have not downgraded US debt is significant. It tells us S&P did what they did to force large cuts in Social Security and Medicare, because Congress has refused to do so. S&P has said you either cut much more of these two programs or we will downgrade you again in November.

    It is hard to image that S&P, an appendage of Wall Street, banking and corporate America, can hold a gun to the head of the US government. That is possible because those who control S&P control the government and our very lives.

    That is S&P’s role in this subtle attempt to deprive American workers of what is justly theirs and is what they have paid for. S&P does not mention that all the funds, revenues, deposited since June of 1935, and in the case of Medicare since 1969, have been misappropriated and stolen.

    It is the legal job of government to now issue debt to fill those trusts so that they can function and complete their jobs, not to cut the benefits. It has been the work of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Peterson Foundation to destroy Social Security and Medicare, as we have known it for years.

    It is no secret; just access what they have said and what they have done to bring this about. What S&P has done to force this issue is being trumpeted that it doesn’t matter what S&P says – it will be business as usual.

    We understand why S&P had done what it has done and it should not affect the rating of US debt. Those who believe this and that US Treasuries are a governmental gold standard are sadly mistaken. Just look at the performance of gold – you have your answer. US debt is not worth the paper it is written on and that gold is the only currency – not the dollar or any other fiat currency.

    Stephen Wilson
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    The politicians in Sacramento are no different than our representatives in Washington.

    Martin Armstrong voices his opinions recently on who is creating the National mess for all of us:

    The new European ban on (legal) short-selling is pure insanity. It is doing the same thing politicians do with every crash that fails and they actually expect a different result. It also highlights our problem that nobody even bothers to look at what has been tried before.

    We cannot hope to advance as a society with stupid management of the economy by people who are clueless.

    So hold on to whatever you can grab. The politicians are out to just destroy society once again and picking up a simple history book is just too much trouble. I can predict with 100% accuracy what they will do next because they follow the same script each time like a rat in a maze that can smell the cheese.

    They NEVER learn about anything. They are like a mentally defective person who keeps putting their finger in the flame of a candle incapable of understanding that the flame burns. And this is what democracy is all about?

    Stephen Wilson
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    Martin Armstrong’s recent comments on U.S. debt:

    Nobody seems to analyze the interest expenditures. You can’t cut the interest costs without defaulting on the debt! In the end, we will default because there is no intelligent life residing in Washington. We will default because there is NO intent to ever pay off anything and right now each and every taxpayer’s share of the national debt is almost $130,000. HELLO! Is anybody home?

    The rhetoric that America always pays its debt is not true! They forgot about the default on the Continental Currency before the US dollar. America is not above everyone else and will be thrust into default as buyers of debt shift from public to private assets towards the end of the cycle (NOT NOW). Certainly, there is no hope of paying off the debt. We ran out of magic beans to climb to a new world and the last I looked, there was no manna falling from heaven.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Being a politician has always been a license to practice stupidity and arrogance. The bankster’s along with the lobbyist’s handouts have become such a powerful drug for them that they conveniently forgot who elected them and whose future is in their hands.

    Martin Armstrong says:

    “If there is any love left among the political ranks for your country, society, and your children, it is time we stop the bullshit and objectively sit down before we lose the chairs as well. I know this is futile to wish for such things because politicians will not act until the crisis appears. In this case, that may be just too damn late. Politicians simply cannot see beyond the rhetoric because this is not about saving the country, but about maintaining power. We cannot cut spending and balance a budget while leaving the entire debt structure off the discussion table. So prepare for what is on the horizon.”

    Stephen Wilson
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    Martin

    Mike won’t give in to these serial bullies and it has become personal. “Those who can, do. Those that can’t, bully.” From, Bully Online.

    Bullying happens quite frequently with career politicians and their appointees when one proves them wrong. Ever see the motion picture, Wag The Dog with Robert DeNiro and Dustin Hoffman? Politicians will always divert attention away from what they don’t want people to really focus on, their short comings.

    In the case of the Water Board: They won’t take responsibility for their mistakes and in turn attack our company with their misinterpretation of the little rule book with their continuing Jekyll and Hyde nature as it suits them.

    The government folks have taken on an aggressive posture to cover-up their past and continuing ineptness as a representative of the people just to save face along with their jobs.

    “All cruelty springs from weakness”
    (Seneca, 4BC-AD65)

    martin newkom
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    I dont understand something: If
    A. Teichert and son can mine it
    is said,can mine enough gold from
    their rock quarry east of the
    big belt that connects it with
    their Perkins rock plant, to now
    meet the payroll for the whole
    company, and not experience any
    flack from the “do gooders”,why
    is the Sixteen under so much of
    a siege from the regulatories
    is it just because we are so onery and refuse to make payoffs
    a maybe others do, or what is iT? It IS Hard to understand.

    Stephen Wilson
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    The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Some of Bob Chapman’s thoughts today from the International Forecaster.

    A game of chicken is being run in Washington by two groups of politicians run and owned by the same group of people behind the scenes. They all want enabling debt extension with a small touch of austerity. They want a deal that has the legs to keep the economy going until after the next election. The most important thing they want is a reduction in Social Security and Medicare, so those funds can be used to reduce debt and fund the military industrial complex.

    They also want starvation and the inability to buy drugs by the elderly to hasten their demise. That means less Social Security and Medicare spending. In two years we will also have the Obamacare death panels, where massive elimination will be put into motion. There is nothing the Illuminists despise worse than useless eaters. There is ample evidence that these elitists, by their own words, want to reduce world population by 60% to 90%, dependent on which of these persons you listen too. Last week Ted Turner opted for 90% on CNN.

    That is what the fight regarding debt extension is all about. The only forthright and honest person in Congress to call it the way it is, is Ron Paul. He says the bill sanctions the status quo and that it is impossible to balance the budget without cutting military, Medicare and Social Security spending and that is impossible. The debt limit will be raised, but we fervently hope without Social Security and Medicare cuts.

    You have to understand your adversaries. These people in Congress are almost all paid whores and the people who control them with money are insane. If you can grasp that you can understand what really this is all about. Watch carefully which members won’t allow military cuts and which want to cut SS and Medicare and then you will have identified the enemy.

    Stephen Wilson
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    The following comments are from Martin Armstrong in today’s article from http://www.martinarmstrong.org entitled “We Print Bonds – Not Money.”

    We are indeed putting lipstick and a dress on the pig and pretending this is the New Year Baby. So put your glasses on and open your eyes. Trust me. It is still a pig. Sleep with one eye wide open. Use some common sense. The SYSTEM of debt is collapsing.

    This is not unique to any one country, for everyone is going down the drain. We are NOT printing money! It is much worse. We are printing money in the form of BONDS that pay interest ensuring the greatest transfer of wealth export in the history of the world. The “Greenback” issues were far more than not gold backed.

    They couldn’t afford the interest and so they stopped paying it. Hello! Sound familiar? The interest is killing us. You can chop every program and people will starve on the streets. But guess what! The debt will keep growing until you stop this insane game of borrowing perpetually. Common Sense would be something to pray for.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Sutter Gold Mining Inc

    2011-07-14 09:18 ET – News Release

    Mr. James Crombie reports

    SUTTER GOLD CLOSES US$ 20 MILLION PREPAID GOLD PROJECT FINANCE FACILITY

    Sutter Gold Mining Inc. has closed an agreement with RMB Australia Holdings (RMBAH) wherein RMBAH will provide a secured prepaid gold facility to Sutter in the amount of $20-million (U.S.) (see press release dated June 22, 2011). The final delivery price is $941.50 per ounce, resulting in total consideration of $1,318.67 per ounce for the 53,027 ounces of gold committed for the facility over the mine plan. This plan is presented in the company’s National Instrument 43-101-compliant preliminary economic assessment for the Lincoln project (see press release dated May 4, 2011). Sutter has made its first draw under the facility, repaying its existing debt and financing the first month of the 12-month development schedule for the Lincoln project, as announced in its June 22, 2011, press release.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Lawmakers are considering changes to how Social Security is adjusted for inflation.

    What’s wrong with conducting an honest poll of what people spend their money on and thus creating an inflationary index based on our normal expenditures so proper adjustments can be made to Social Security checks that’s representative of reality?

    As things currently stand, about 65% of all the money(real purchasing power) that was deposited with the Feds in our names will never see the light of day, it’s gone. And now they are proposing to take more?

    What a great pension plan, it’s called, “Squeeze the People.”

    Stephen Wilson
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    Too back we can move our properties.

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Buffeted by high taxes, strict regulations and uncertain state budgets, a growing number of California companies are seeking friendlier business environments outside of the Golden State.

    Stephen Wilson
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    James Turk spells out what the real problem is, besides debt in the link below. Aside from some important issues regarding the continuing confiscation of our wealth, Mr, Turk, again, points the finger at TOO MUCH(incompetent) government regulation – a topic we are all very much aware of.

    http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_jul112011.html

    Stephen Wilson
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    Rae

    Thanks for your positive perspective concerning how to react to bothersome subjects. Just be sure you have your garden planted in the right place.

    http://www.theagitator.com/2011/07/07/does-michelle-obama-know-about-this/

    martin newkom
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    Rae’s comments are well taken and
    very appropriate. People will drive themselves to the “nut” house attepting to combat all
    the “bad guys”. Best to let the people who know how to fight them
    best do the job. Life goes on.We
    must be mining tho’ somehow.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Gold $1531.90 OFF $0.80
    Silver $36.33 OFF $0.11

    The metals have turned higher over past days as a result of the downgrading of Portuguese debt.

    The question is, can the expanding debt problems be temporarily cured and if so, for how long? Jim Sinclair has stated before that in a matter of two weeks the western world’s financial order could unravel.

    The following are today’s comments from Jim Sinclair:

    Raising the debt ceiling is the problem and not by at means a solution. The race between dropping revenues and increasing costs will not be settled by politicians that do not even understand the problem.

    The resignations of key economic personalities in the present Administration is systematic of the solid nature of the downward spiral that has gripped Western finances since the failure of OTC derivatives turned a normal recession into a long term depression.

    There is no event that will turn the tide of the ramifications for poor economic management. Nothing can stop Gold, Silver, the Swiss and the Cando now.

    Rae Bell
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    Thanks for the message Rick. If we apply self-defense methods of the Orient, wherein you use the strength of your opponent against him on a political level what would it look like? It is the philosophy of “That which is yielding prevails”. Water erodes stone, the tree that bends does not break.
    It is easy and dangerous I believe to get too wrapped up in finding everything that is wrong with our government and system. There is a personal toll that can debilitate a person. In this day and age with so much information bombardment I think we need to be careful and learn to take care of ourselves first. So what does “using the force of those you oppose against them” look like in a social sense? How do we move from a positive rather than a defensive position? It is in the day-to-day things we do, here and now.
    The flip side of the same coin is that when you oppose something directly you actually strengthen it in the sense that it moves into a defensive mode. I believe that corruption contains within itself the seeds of its own destruction, so our task is to remain diligent and pay attention but to primarily put our energy into supporting what we want and what we know is helpful. Such as volunteering for your local fire dept. Taking food to your elderly neighbor. Growing a garden…etc…Ok I’ll get off my “soap box”.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Jim Willie tees off on Bernanke

    The Great Misdiagnosis

    http://www.kitco.com/ind/willie/jul012011.html

    Rick Montgomery
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    Bluejay, and all:

    Your posed question of whether or not the “merry party-goes understand that our rights are in the process of being taken from us”…..

    Whether yes or no (I suspect, based upon the answers and demonstrated wisdom that the huge answer is NO)…

    …our challenge is not to wring our hands, but instead to engage every, EVERY! opportunity to share the Constitutional historic truths that have given us all our freedoms…the freedoms that feel so much like a levie collaspe beneath our shoes.

    WE NEED NOTHING MORE THAN THE CONSTITUTION to share with the un-informed.

    This is our challenge (vs. not to lament the challenge) that we face as a nation.

    Public schools, unfortunately the truth, have specifically ommitted history with a suspect political motive aimed at public sector empowerment…never mind the education of the next generation…

    We, all of us, need to take resposibility for the necessary acquired knowledge through the history of why our freedoms exist.

    So, Bluejay….do these merry-minded party-goers understand that our rights are in the process and have been in the process of being taken from us??

    No, and maybe, and for a few, yes.

    Ours is a nation to preserve in the form of our founders, so we take the opportunities to teach. To enlighten the words in the Constitution that guarantee freedom for all.

    I try to, everyday.

    Let’s move forward!

    Stephen Wilson
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    I listened to and watched our early 4th of July celebration last night in town as loud thundering explosions and flickering lights consumed the eastern sky over the city. Wondering all the time, do these merry party-goers understand that our rights are in the process and have been in the process of being taken from us?

    The following video pretty much explains the situation that we find ourselves in today, July 4, 2011.

    http://www.infowars.com/audiobox2.html

    gary jeffres
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    “The Soledad Mountain Project, gold and silver, just outside of Mojave in Kern County is getting closer to production with all permits in place. The last remaining hurdle is to secure financing.”

    I worked one of the mines on Soledad Mountain.
    1982-3 I worked the elephant mine under lease from Virginia Knight widow of governor Goodwin Knight.
    This mine is now part of the Soledad Mountain project.

    This project has now taken over 20 years in getting permits for operations

    Michael Miller
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    When asked to prepare a vision for the Sixteen to One a few years ago, the following appeared from my thoughts about the future.

    WHAT’S IN ITS FUTURE

    A VISION

    The vision for Original Sixteen to One Mine, Inc. (the Company) includes America’s natural resources but focuses on the plentiful natural resources of California. While the vision may appear to be rather explicit or narrow, it includes gold and other mineral products, timber and water. It encompasses their utilization, management, development and marketing for maximum yield. No other public reporting company incorporated in the United States shares this focus.

    This vision includes the social aspects of natural resources and the desperate need to protect the cultural as well as the physical environment of our precious natural resources. The Company combines all social sciences as well as most physical sciences into an operational program. It is an enlightened business plan of operation. The Sixteen to One’s past reveals a necessary approach of maintaining long-term assets with the short term needs of producing revenue. Its present status is demonstrative proof that a small natural resource company has survived the demands of natural resource utilization in today’s overly aggressive pro environmental outlook.

    The Company will become known as the model for future natural resource development in California and the United States. Its operations will challenge the erroneous myths and prejudices of well meaning activists who hinder the sensible extraction of our natural wealth. These beliefs have turned the omnipresent demands for raw materials to natural resource production in other parts of the world, a dangerous reality.

    A primary ingredient for our vision and subsequent model to expand is an infusion of working capital. There has been a noticeable lack of interest from Wall Street or private investors in forest and mineral production. The modest attention of the stock market towards America’s natural resource companies hurts future generations both in the United States and the world. Some patterns of investment are predictable. Investors’ interest in specific industries continues to move from one sector to another. The Gold Sector is abstruse, removed from the usual way of thinking and difficult to comprehend. The forest industry follows closely in its mystic.

    A movement into natural resource ownership or participation is overdue. Unlike banking, savings and loan institutions, automobiles, real estate, airlines, pharmaceuticals, computers, utilities and practically every part of the complex mixture of America’s democratic capitalism, the natural resource companies are ignored. Perhaps one simple answer is that resource companies believe they must stay under the radar to function in today’s hostile anti-mining/anti-logging mentality. Perhaps a more likely reason is the pure misunderstanding that potential investment capital has about these small but vital industries.

    The Company’s dream foresees an awakening of Americans to the realization that we need and will benefit from a return to domestic natural resource productivity. For almost fifty years America has been bombarded with media blame for past degradation to the environment. Some of the blame is justified. Many extraction and harvesting methods, however, are no longer practiced and cannot be assumed as what to expect from future operators.

    American industries have learned from the past and clearly are the most environmentally sensitive operators in the world. This is one reason to bridge the ignorance gap of the population and our leaders. The “not-in-my-back-yard” position is a short-sided myth! Vital and necessary minerals and other resource products come from countries without the sensible regulations that have evolved in the United States over the past hundred years. The consequences of this are global.

    Even though population growth and physical development exploded during the twentieth century, the world-changing roll of the United States has taken a more dramatic turn. A counter cultural shift emerged. America was considered the can-do country. Democratic and capitalistic social ideologies opened the doors for an expanding middle class, especially from workers identified as “blue collar”. Our natural resources were developed and accessible. What changed?

    Somewhat reluctantly America became a world power and responsible leader. The blue-collar worker of today is losing economic ground as our society turns more and more to the service industries. But the need for manufacturing contemporary products in America remains; and in order to produce, industry requires raw materials. America has them in abundance. America also needs the backbone of its labor resources to insure our freedoms.

    The time has come to broadcast how to treat our inherited resources in the 21st century. Original Sixteen to One Mine, Inc., a US corporation, has all the pieces to lead this renaissance except one. That missing ingredient is explained in its Executive Summary. The oldest American mining corporation operating needs a grubstake to turn its dream into a reality. It will celebrate a 100-year, centennial birthday in October 2011.

    Happy Birthday America. On July 4, 2011, the land that we appreciate and love is 235 years old.

    martin newkom
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    I’d like to see all of these northern counties secede too.
    I’m tired of prepetual-career
    politicians like our present
    gov. holding “sway” year after year.

    David Ingraham
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    Before WW II Our state almost had a split to another state. ” The State of Jefferson” It only included California’s two most northern counties. In the past the State had an initiative opinion of the people to split the state 6 ways, which was approved, but only an opinion of the people. As usual the legislature just ignored what the people wanted.
    Some thought on this is to split the California Eastern Counties away from the Western Counties, but to have access to the ocean, it would be necessary to have either San Diago County or Del Norte County as part of the split.
    San Diago County would be the better county, as it is an economic power house to maintain the economic stability of the new State. The society of San Diago is more in tune to respecting the rights of the people.
    What needs to be done is a popular vote of the counties in question by the people. A convention of county representatives to draw up a state constitution, and charter. Draw up a petition for an initiative vote to the Whole state of California, for the approval of separation, with the requirement for the legislature to action of approval to the mandate of the voter. Then a petition for state hood could be readied for presentation to congress and submitted by representative congressmen of those in congress with sympathy of the new state hood. I hope that the counties of interest pursue this action.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Beware of the manipulators

    Thoughts from Martin Armstrong:

    The importance of really understanding the Great Depression stems from the fact it was a Sovereign Debt Crisis. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the accounts of the Great Depression were domestic oriented influenced by the socialists who had been rising on the political scene even since the 1880s after the 1870s high and Marx’s Communist Manifesto in appearance 1848. They seized the facts and manipulated history for political purposes.

    Just as the environmentalists used a natural warming cycle in the sun to claim man alone has caused global warming ignoring the natural 300 year cycle in the energy output of the sun to further their agenda. What about the previous Ice Ages that were followed by global warming without cars? The socialists re-wrote history to support their cause.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Official calls for Riverside, 12 other counties to secede from California. Maybe, Southern California’s past producing gold mines will become active again.

    Rick Montgomery
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    Bluejay has struck a nerve within, in a good way. Thank you for the avenue:

    Solar and meteoritic impact cycles prove global cycles void of human input exist. It is painful to endure the politics of the newly named “Climate Changers”…as their’s is clearly a political ploy.

    Man didn’t invent the sun; nor has man invented the weather. Al Gore tried to fake it with his movie (and an unfortunate many bought it like snake oil.)

    Politics has a way of seeking the lowest common denominator: the least informed.

    I like to point out the falacy by inviting human-causation-global-warmists to visit Yosemite Valley and ask them to ask themselves whether or not it is “beauty” (yes, of course.)….Next is to ask them where the ice went, and why it disappeared.

    (Aerosol cans or CO2 auto emmisions or both, they are stumped and fumble around to assemble their head to assimilate what they’ve been conditioned to blame.)

    Bottom line: we have historic ignorance on parade.

    It does, indeed, directly affect every part of “regulation” we endure.

    I DO NOT ACCEPT THE PREMISE…

    and therefore have a handle on the political CRAP angle that generates the regulatory caltrops that prevent private-sector success.

    This directly has affected the grand Original Sixteen to One Mine.

    There is a solution to Global Warming in the minds of those who use it to control: it’s called Socialism, or even better, Communism, where everyone toes the government line.

    The other solution is to point out that it is a human-fabricated futute disaster.

    I, for one, know the difference. And can back it up.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Is this the beginning of a new trend?

    The Soledad Mountain Project, gold and silver, just outside of Mojave in Kern County is getting closer to production with all permits in place. The last remaining hurdle is to secure financing.

    When in operation the mine will employ 165 and is expected to produce 75,000 ounces of gold and 950,000 ounces of silver per year for a minimum of 13 years.

    The project is owned by Golden Queen Mining.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/golden-queen-announces-updated-feasibility-study-for-soledad-mountain-project-2011-04-06-15500?siteid=bigcharts&dist=bigcharts

    martin newkom
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    On recent viewing of a map of Nevada, I realized: 1. There is
    a lot of “nothing”;2. There are
    los of ranches and railroad side-
    ings; 3. There are lots and lots
    of MINES, everywhere!! The gov’t
    would be fighting a tough battle
    to mess with all of them.

    Stephen Wilson
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    Utah is one State to be watched for future trends. Keep an eye on Texas along with Representative Ron Paul of Texas- and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky for resistance against what is clearly wrong.

    Lee: Gold, Silver Should Be Treated Like Currency (Salt Lake Tribune)

    Senators Mike Lee (UT), Rand Paul (KY), and Jim DeMint (SC) have co-sponsored a bill that would get rid of capital gains taxes for gold and silver coins.

    Rick Montgomery
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    Far beyond our specific mining obstacles in Alleghany, our wolf-cry as Free Americans is to shed our shyness to engage the inate fortune that is in our hands to discover!!!!

    [All the political crap is trivial in big-picture….our challenge is to maintain our focus of freedom.]

    Allow me these thoughts to move forward:

    “We don’t step into their circle of distraction… we reverse it instead. WE ARE SUCCESS, despite the obstacles thrown in front of us. We don’t accept the premises of their arguments, instead don’t engage in that areana, and show the way to the expanding pie. Ours, THIS, is a GRAND GOOD FORTUNE to share with all, not one to be ashamed of….We never allow the notion that great fortune to those who pursue detracts from those without the insight.

    “We lead by example!!! And inspire!!!”

    When the

    Michael Miller
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    David Hidalgo/Louie Perez wrote, “Will the Wolf Survive” as members of an East L.A. band. The debut album and song remain a powerful thought three decades later. When Rick started this topic, I expected a short life and blend it into one of the longstanding topics. It may happen, but for a while let your mind flow back in America’s history, return to the present and reach for thoughts about our future in the United States.

    My belief that the wolf will survive accepts the notion that those forces against two strong legs and two strong arms are not as strong as the sounds across the nation, which comes from hearts and minds. Another songwriter comes to mind, Rodney Crowell, who sings, “Ignorance is the enemy”. The pendulum of extreme right and radical left continues to move away from both.

    Through the chill of winter
    Running across the frozen lake
    Hunters are out on his trail
    All odds are against him
    With a family to provide for
    The one thing he must keep alive
    Will the wolf survive?

    Drifting by the roadside
    Climbs each storm and aging face
    Wants to make some morning’s fate
    Losing to the range war
    He’s got two strong legs to guide him
    Two strong arms keep him alive
    Will the wolf survive?

    Standing in the pouring rain
    All alone in a world that’s changed
    Running scared, now forced to hide
    In a land where he once stood with pride
    But he’ll find his way by the morning light

    Sounds across the nation
    Coming from your hearts and minds
    Battered drums and old guitars
    Singing songs of passion
    It’s the truth that they all look for
    The one thing they must keep alive
    Will the wolf survive?
    Will the wolf survive?

    Stephen Wilson
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    Being able to survive in an environment that has allowed the gutting of the Rule of Law has been no small feat. Congratulations to the defenders of our company.

    The following link clearly points the finger to who should be in the Post Office behind glass on the Most Wanted List for degrading this nation and stealing our money.

    http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/Gretchen%20Morgenson’s%20Book%2006-26-2011.pdf

    Rick Montgomery
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    Congratulations to the Original Sixteen to One Mine, and to all of those underground (however few, when tough-times challenge)…and to the above-ground positive and persistent optimistic pure-will to survive…and to the wisdom of all to thwart regulatory-criminal-machine-opposition that has tried to cause collapse.

    This GRAND MINE stands strong!

    Congrats to the shareholders (all of us) who know the faith we maintain is true.

    Amazing things happen with persistence.

    gary jeffres
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    “out of work construction workers”
    This may have been true during the economic down turn of 1998.

    I was one of those out of work construction workers with a mining background that went back to mining then.

    I worked mining any time there was no construction work and knew of a number of others that did.
    Many of use had the skills to mine and the will to work instead of drawing unemployment

    This down turn i know of no construction workers turned miners with the dredging ban.

    Michael Miller
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    When honest, well-meaning people(ABrink) find a worthwhile article to share with others on our website, I am thrilled. Overcoming ignorance, which is pervasive throughout society today, continues to be the best way to stimulate actions to slow, stop our harmful behaviors. ABrink found an article and was kind enough to report it to distant friends.

    BUT the new California gold rush article is inaccurate at best or reckless or willfully misleading at worse. The key words in the first paragraph are “hopeful amateur miners”.

    Suggesting that “hardcore pros” (does the author mean hardcore amateurs?) are using dredging pumps and standing in hip waders while balancing portable (gas driven) pumps in May on the American River is ludicrous. Due to demagoguery the California legislature wrote and passed a law that prohibits all dredging in California waterways. The rationale is ridiculous yet our Governor signed it.

    Claiming that “out of work construction workers” have moved to the mountains and are opening up mines, I guess without mandatory permits is insane. It isn’t happening in any rush. The biggest problem facing gold mining out west is California according to those few of us with a history in mining. The cost of and delays in acquiring permits to operate are legendary.

    The author has confused filing a mining claim with the BLM is the equivalent with issuing a mining permit. If those truly ignorant people working to revoke one of our greatest opportunities for all Americans over 18 years of age (the ability to stake a claim under the 1872 Mining Law), will out, the global corporate powers will take over our domestic natural resources. It will be either a monopoly or oligopoly, take your choice, Either way Americans and America are the losers.

    BY the way, the Mad Hedge Fund Trader closes his article with a pitch to all those folks who cannot go stand and pan gold in California to buy an EFT. Surprise, surprise.

    Adrian Brink
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    An article by the ‘Mad Hedge Fund Trader’ suggests that California is being swept into a new gold rush, which – if true – should help the 16:1.

    http://www.resourceinvestor.com/News/2011/6/Pages/The-New-California-Gold-Rush-.aspx

    David Ingraham
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    I have to compliment Mike Miller’s Statement from The President of the 16 to One. I totally agree.
    In all the counties of California, there is the Civil Grand Jury Process for reviewing the county and city government agencies for their responsibility to their prescribe duties, and their relations to the public. We as a state do not have this policy at the state level.

    David Ingraham
    Participant
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    This is a rewrite to clarify confusion of a previous comment.

    There is no such thing as a bill with the label of HB 1388.
    It is either HR or SB.

    There is a HR 1388 For development of Rare Earth Elements.

    Below is the Federal Registry of exactly what The President authorized in 2009 not 2011.

    “Presidential Determination No. 2009-15 of January 27, 2009

    Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related To Gaza
    Memorandum for the Secretary of State
    By the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including section 2(c)(1) of the Migration and Refugee Assistance Act of 1962 (the “Act”), as amended (22 U.S.C. 2601), I hereby determine, pursuant to section 2(c)(1) of the Act, that it is important to the national interest to furnish assistance under the Act in an amount not to exceed $20.3 million from the United States Emergency Refugee and Migration Assistance Fund for the purpose of meeting unexpected and urgent refugee and migration needs, including by contributions to international, governmental, and nongovernmental organizations and payment of administrative expenses of Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration of the Department of State, related to humanitarian needs of Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza.
    You are authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

    (Presidential Sig.)
    THE WHITE HOUSE,
    Washington, January 27, 2009
    [FR Doc. E9-2488
    Filed 2-3-09; 8:45 am]”

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