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Yes, there are others out here watching, reading and wishing only the best for Mr. Miller and his battle aganist the “Machine”. Please Scoop, give us some underground info!!!We always like to here what is going on at the mine.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2324Scoop, please somehow let Mike know how much I believe that those of us out here watching and reading and witnessing the battle are behind him on every level. I only speak for myself, but I sense this.
Here’s the reason it might not be showing up on the Forum page:
when there is an entry from Mike Miller, or the President of OAu, or an entry updating the latest news from the GJI, I’m reluctant to trump it with an answer, wanting to keep his words directly on the first front, right there at the top. While I itch to answer and substantiate the latest entries, I don’t want the gravity to be diverted.So, Scoop, give us the latest news from underground, and then let Mike know to re-enter another correspondence letter or news-from-the-legal-battles so it’ll go back on top. (We always want to know about stuffs underground and how things are going around town.)
Big storm brewing.
in reply to: YOU JUDGE *** US COURT OF APPEALS #2322Good news and important for all Americans
Regarding our appeal to the United Stated Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, which was filed on August 23, 2004 (the entire appeal can be reviewed below). The Circuit Judges denied the Appellee’s motion to dismiss the appeal for lack of jurisdiction. Appellee is the Federal Mine Safety and Health Administration. Its answering brief is due within 30 days of the filing date of the order. Our optional reply brief is due within 14 days of service of the answering brief.
Several years ago different active and retired MSHA employees confided in me that until those in the mining industry stood up to the enforcement abuses that were occurring during the end of last century, MSHA inspectors and low level management would continue to write and support “bad paper”. For the mining companies it was less costly to just pay the fine or at a minimum get the citation reduced than fight the battle through the administrative and court systems. For me, a line was drawn with Mark Fussell’s tragic accident. Read my brief, if you care to know why. Well, here we are in the United States Court of Appeals. Mark’s accident was on November 6, 2000. All along I felt inadequate to handle the task and at times pleaded for help. There has been some, pitifully little, though.
I have no idea how the lawyers will spin their tale to the Court of Appeals. They have completely lost sight of their job responsibilities. A broad range of state and federal men and women connected to the safety of workers do not agree with the lawyers who press the bogus charges against us. While this is reassuring, I remain open to your constructive input, especially all in the resources industries. The judges in the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco now have an issue before them of great importance well beyond our small sphere of influence. I pray for their wisdom.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2321Roy was released from the Hospital but is still not able to have visitors. He is at his mother’s house. A huge weight seems to have lifted from over Alleghany as we are all relieved to know that a valuable member of the community will be coming home.
“Jumbo” Witterman brought up a bit of gold yesterday. He is optimistic as always that more is there. Let’s hope he’s right.
The new “dry” near the portal is taking shape.
In other Alleghany News, Jim Roos donated the Church building to the community for use as a Community Hall/Library. Rae is helping spearhead the effort to restore the building and build a seperate building to house bathroom facilities. As a fundraiser we are inviting people to buy bricks which can be engraved with any message you choose. The bricks will be used to make a patio in front of the steps. Some people have done bricks in memory of family members, others in their family name with a favorite saying or verse. Bricks are $50.00 each, if you would like to recieve an order form you can e-mail Rae Bell by using the “feedback” button on this web-site.
Other local news is that the new Community Service District which is being formed primarily to take over Fire Protection is taking shape. The District is called “Pliocene Ridge Community Service District” and will serve the communities of Pike, Forest and Alleghany. This had to be done to secure funding for the Fire Departments. Some immediate savings will result from the consolidation of insurance policies.
The sun is peeking out from behind the clouds. Amazingly the weather report given Monday has been accurate all week! Rain showers on and off all week. One of the plum trees in front of the mine office is pushing out buds.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2320Good news! Roy is doing much better. Rumor is that he may be released from the hospital this week.
It has been raining on and off since early Sunday most of the snow is melted.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2319Bad and Sad News from Alleghany
Two longtime residents, miners and friends tangled last weekend. One is fighting for his life at the Roseville hospital, and the other is charged with assault with a deadly weapon. The tragic event continues to affect everyone in the community. Unlike the cities where most Americans don’t even know or rarely interact with their neighbors, the high mountain village of Alleghany is a place where most everyone can name each person, know their trucks, know there friends and how their pets are doing. The fight, which took place last Saturday, has a deeply personal implication for all, including the operation at the mine.
Roy Stai has been an important part of the Sixteen to One team for years. He handles computer map work, metal detection, is a qualified hoist operator and skilled in the electrical trade. He and Davey Hill, a long time Sierra County resident, miner and jack-of-all-trades, had an encounter last November that never went away for Hill. Hill is a former professional boxer, which is why he is charged with assault with a deadly weapon, his fists. While the entire community is praying for Roy’s recovery, the majority of folks feel that Davey must leave the area. It is a tragedy that is touching everyone.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2318Oh! to be a miner! As to the fork in the road, thank God you’re taking it, whether up or down, otherwise it wouldn’t be fun.
Now, isn’t it possible for a comet to travel backwards as well as forward, once it’s underground?
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2317The crew has been working in the Tightner shaft for weeks. Access from the 800-foot level downward is the new second exit as well as the best path to the current headings. The Ballroom trail, which many shareholders and others have traveled is closed. The fishpond is there but no longer safely accessible. Over two hundred new stairs are installed. This work helps the miners looking for gold and opens up new ground in the footwalls both north and south of the shaft.
Scoop is bummed! Reid’s heading broke into Joe’s heading exactly at the point of the last big pocket in July. It turned out that the trail he was following was related to the last pocket and not a new pocket. That tail –of-the-comet story that Ian tells is right on. Reid will move down where he encountered signals as he was driving the raise.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2315The weather has been gorgeous in Alleghany this week. There is still a bit of white stuff on the ground but patches of dirt are appearing.
The 16 to 1 crew has been working on installing stairs in the Tightner shaft as well as other compliance projects. Sparse gold continues to dribble out of the two headings near the “Ballroom”.
The Empire Project continues to challenge Mike. The ground is very “slippery” where the adit is being put in and after convincing the State that steel sets would be best (not only for ground support reasons but for long term maintenance concerns as well) the State did an “about-face” Tuesday and informed him that they wanted to go back to treated lumber. Part of Mike’s frustration is that the Dept. of Parks Engineers do not seem to be giving credit to the opinions of the very experienced crew of miners putting in the adit. Everybody is hopeful that the ground will become more solid as they advance but part of the problem is the relatively high elevation of the adit. (Solid ground is more likely to be deeper).
Rae’s current priority is getting the year-end financials finished. The day-to-day barrage of things needing her attention sometimes makes it difficult to focus on a single priority. Registered users will be notified when the 10-K is filed with the SEC.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2316Rick it worked!!!The Scoop has awakened.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2314Nobody can ‘Scoop the Scoop’ unless we pleed for more news. (My entry here might just awake the Scoop to speak?)
in reply to: CDAA Conduct #2313George reminds me that the game of law is a war of wordsmanship. I interpret this as a combination of the choice and arrangement of the words as well as the arrangement of the shipper. We are in warfare in this game. Not all games are warfare even though they are competitive.
I was raised with games and know gamesmanship. About twenty years ago, well after I realized that WW III’s battleground is in the courtroom, my background and experiences qualified me to join in destroying the opponent in WW III. Anyone can play, not just members of the State Bar. Californians codified our individual right to justice or overcome judicial oppression. Californians demanded a level of performance of lawyers and codified a State Bar Club. The State Bar doctrines state the rules of the game. I lacked the judicial training but have gained perspective and more with each battle. Here is a taste of what I know about professionalism:
It is a team game requiring the finest effort of specific high tone performances. As carrying on the California 49ers culture, my exposure to gold and the professional football team of 49ers provided some training I lacked. Yes, my decisions are woven with 16 to 20 annual doses of observing teamwork between the line, the offense and defense, the theater of it all and the opponents. I single out only Jerry Rice as the one player who opened my mind to the roughness of professionalism and the ballerina aptitudes of one man with life threatening consequences. Ten years ago I handed Jerry Rice the Whopper at the Grass Valley fairgrounds. He was thrilled to hold it, and I was thrilled to stand next to him and feast on his features and provide him that opportunity to observe.
The following words were included as dogma in the last section of our opposition to their demurrer heard on October 5. After you have read them to yourself, read them out loud. At some time take the effort to listen to someone read the transcript of a California Supreme Court decision.
Conclusion
“The profession of the law possesses extraordinary powers. Lawyers
can make the arrogant humble and the weak strong. In control of the
course of litigation and armed with the knowledge of right and wrong,
they are most able to abjure illegal or tortuous conduct, it is their
duty to so. As occupants of a high public trust and officers of the
Court, they are expected to confirm their behavior in legal affairs to a
higher standard of rectitude and spirit of obedience than those who are
willing to endure the dust of transgression.
“Guided by oath, duty and obligation, the lawyer’s path avoids the
vices from which the virtuous abstain. Thus it ill suits the profession
to seek immunity for injuries inflicted while engaged in legal warfare
under the protective tarpaulin of the privilege for ‘judicial
proceedings.'”Kimmel v. Goland (1990) 51 Cal.3d 202,214, 271 Cal.Rptr. 191,
793 P.2d.524.
That is precisely what this case is all about, and that is what
defendants seek by this demurrer.
__________________________
GEORGE R. GILMOUR
Attorney for Plaintiff
SIXTEEN-TO-ONE MINE, INC.
_________________________
MICHAEL MILLER
Plaintiff in Propria
Personain reply to: From the Sixteen to One Archives #2312During 1927, William (Billy) Simkins wrote a report on the 16:1 mine for Fred Searls, geologist and later President of Newmont Mining. Simkins noted that 70% of the highgrade was found at or near the hanging wall of the vein, but it is a mistake to assume that no development should be done on the footwall. He also noted that there was a tendency to drive raises at angles which lend themselves to easy operation of the scraper (slusher) rather than close following the ore. For this reason, considerable highgrade is still present where thicker portions of the vein are present.
in reply to: From the Sixteen to One Archives #2310Within the northern portion of the 16:1 mine, the North Orebody and the Yellow Jacket orebody, no relation to the Yellow Jacket mine, together produced approximately 37,800 ounces of gold. The Yellow Jacket orebody was only mined to the 1250 level, probably because the rake of the deposit causes it to cross into the Red Star mine, now owned by the 16:1. This leaves a mostly unexplored area between the 1250 and 1500 levels. During a metal detector survey in 1993, 1,000 ounces were discovered and mined from an underhand stope just below the 1500 level along the rake of the Yellow Jacket orebody.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2311Scoop thought that he\she could spin a tale, but after reading the last week of FORUM entries, you guys top him/her. Scoop will refrain from joining you and get back to the doctrine of reporting.
So here’s today’s scoop. Joe’s heading continues to dribble gold. It is probably the tail of the gold comet from the pocket in July, so no one should get too excited. Gold is gold and as NOSE for GOLD seems to understand, gold in the muck in Alleghany means go break rock! Go Joe. Reid’s heading, on the other hand, still shows gold; however, today it took a more interesting twist. It is too far from being just a tail of 1400 ounces. Then again maybe God and his helper, Mother Nature, plopped down another pocket. Calculated risk defines this high-grade gold mine.
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2309January 20, 2005 Alleghany, CA
Today, at the home of Michael M. Miller, a top-secret anti-terrorist weapon was prematurely tested. The “TI” (terrorist incinerator) had been powered up by Mr. Miller for a full systems check when he was distracted by the news on television. After the story he was watching finished, Mr. Miller got up to return to work on the “TI” when another story came on the television. This time the story was about Usama Bin Laden and his writings that are to be published. As soon as Bin Laden’s photo came on the screen, the “TI” went into action. “The facial recognition software worked perfectly,” was uttered by a singed Mr. Miller. “It was all I could do to just jump out of the way.” The incinerating plasma burst was reported to have been over thirty feet and on target!
The official word from the Department of Homeland Security is that some mountainman’s still blew up but, that they had to check it out anyway.in reply to: Miscellaneous #2306Mike, do a google search with the words “multi slicing machine”. You will find machines for slicing hard materials such as silicon or opals. Good luck.
in reply to: Clips from Alleghany #2308Scoop has a story for you.
A gas bomb ignited in Michael’s house yesterday. He lit it off in a situation that was not a good one. Wisely he called Rae at the mine office who sensed that what Mike was telling her was likely a lot more serious than he was explaining. Accordingly Rae asked whether David should drive out. The president reported he had been blow up by a gas round and the flames shot thirty feet igniting the couch, now on fire. Everything was okay but maybe it would be okay to bother David to help with the fire. While most everyone in California would dial 911 if their house was on fire and they were singed by the blast, Michael called Rae, not 911. Hmmm.
Miller agreed to this interview with Scoop.What were you doing that created the explosion? My propane tanks went dry during the heavy snows and remained empty over two weeks. I was bleeding air out of the long lines and must have bled the air too long. Propane puddled in front of me and much farther. When I moved the lighted candle towards the pilot, gases had accumulated and wham. It was loud and horrifying. I rushed what I knew could be volatile and wham. The smell of burning hair, especially your own is not a pleasant smell.
Would you object to calling that a stupid move? No. It was a careless move and stupid.
Would you object to being called stupid? Yes. I have never thought myself stupid, yet I am stupid at times.It was not a stimulating interview for this Scoop so it ended. The company shipped a seventy-five ounce bar to the refiner. It matches an earlier poured dore bar from earlier gold mined in July. This mine’s low grade ore that is sent to crush averages a half ounce per pound. It is too different from other gold producers to have major relevance. The ore that went to crush would grade at 1000 ounces per ton. Some low grade!
in reply to: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK #2305Just shows how STUPID the people of California really are. They worry about toxic chemicals and elements at the Empire mine that don’t exist, yet they continue to build on an active volcano at Mammoth, Calif. Several geologists and their families have moved out of Bishop knowing that this will be a bigger disaster than the tsunami. If you don’t believe this, just check the sismograph at the University of Nevada.
in reply to: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK #2307The Department of Toxic Substances needs to look in the mirror. The Executive branch of our California State government needs to go look at their reflection and cut them off from their pig-trough.
Yes, Mike, we are all individuals but unfortunately by default find ourselves “defended” by public idiot “Departments” who have yet to have their butts called on the carpet. And to think we as private-sector taxpayers (individual and corporate) pay their way just rakes my you-know-what sideways.
This is why I pose the issue. The Executive Branch you mention is the very office of the Governor, and I believe some heads should roll and so might he as well, if he knew that “Departments” yet unexposed, existing on the public dole were standing around at (ironically, a State Park renovation) “suggesting” a possible problem…”we’ll find one because that’s our job”…..
Inevitably, public ‘servants’ will dream up “concerns”…this is their job description. Well heck, I have “concerns” that tomorrow I’ll wake up alive, but I’ll be damned if a bunch of your money or anyone else’s should be spent to worry about it. I’m resposible for myself, as is any other private sector entity, as it should be.
Since when is a “concern” a “fact” worth investigating? Since when did a “concern” become an allegation and therefore an infraction and therefore worthy of a Commission and then worthy of a public funding project worthy of a bunch of idiots standing around dreaming up problems, when if they just looked in the mirror, they’d realize they’re cutting off their own nose despite their face?
Idiocy worth shutting down. Top down.
Yes, Mike, Bob Shoemaker’s article points directly to this point. It should be published front page for our governor to read while he ponders why private enterprise hits the wall.
in reply to: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK #2304If the bureaucrats are declaring that the base rock coming out of the Empire is toxic, wouldn’t logic dictate that all the rock dug from anywhere and everywhere is potentially toxic also, including road cuts on all roads and highways? Going further does that mean that all our roads and highways are potential superfund sites and need to be remediated – but what would you remediate with – the implication from the little minds is that all rock fill is toxic – therefore we would have to shut down all our roads. This is friggin nuts – the bureaucratic world keeps getting bigger, and to justify their existence, they continue to meddle in all our lives and screw things up by adding on more layers. The only way to end it, is to privatize the service functions of government and take it out of the hands of the lifers.
in reply to: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK #2303Rick, I don’t know the answer, but let me tell you the latest. Remember, the following account is the position of California’s public servants. There is a duty and an obligation for all public employees act in the interests of the public. Since I undertook this project to build the Empire Adit, an historically important tribute to the Sierra Nevada gold miners, there has been a steady barrage of interferences. This is a publicly owned park and the project is financed by a ballot measure (Prop Two). I believe that our crew also has a fiduciary duty of performance and execution, as do those public servants who get a regular paycheck. Here is the latest:
In a meeting in Sacramento, someone either in the Department of Parks and Recreation or the Department of Toxic Substances raised a concern that the base rock in the park is toxic. Because of this allegation or concern, the rock now has to be removed and stock piled away from the mining operation. I asked, “What is the toxic matter?” Cyanide was the answer. I said impossible. Cyanide loses its toxicity over time in the sunlight and there are no reports that the native rock contains harmful levels of cyanide. (There were seven State employees standing at the construction site when we were having this conversation). Someone said, “Well it must be arsenic.” No, I replied. Maybe if we cross cut a mineralized quartz vein there could be elevated levels of arsenic, but in most cases it will not be the toxic arsenic we would encounter. Someone then said, “It must be lead.” I was speechless at this point.
All of these people are reasonable and intelligent; however as a flock or under the influence of other bureaucrats, they act recklessly and against the public’s interests. Someone must challenge the authenticity of these off hand and irresponsible opinions. There is a duty to all Californians to do so. If it is true that the waste rock of the Empire Mine is toxic, the park must be closed down. It is a hazard to the public! Mister Bourn (the old owner and operator) and all the management of this great mining venture used waste rock throughout the construction of buildings, walls and walkways. All of Grass Valley and Nevada City embrace waste rock under their roads. What has happened to our society? Does anyone have an answer? Chicken Little is alive and well.
I do not like battles or relish confrontation; however, the park, like a woman, is not a little bit pregnant. The earth has not been toxic to man or other creatures playing on its surface. All life is formed from its minerals. Yes, Rick, California may have the leadership to right a listing ship, but our governor is only one man. It takes you and me and all the others who recognize the cost of “uninsightful” thinking. If you have not read Bob Shoemaker’s article under news, go read it. Bob is a seasoned expert, whose opinion should carry more weight that most. There is only so much money to go around and Californians must ask questions about the value we receive for the cost of someone’s opinion. The Empire Mine is only one small example.
The Empire Mine is a worthwhile project in theory. The design has been compromised and the bureaucrats (not all of them, and in fact only a few) are screwing it up. In my business, when I make a mistake, I want someone to tell me and help me to correct it. I do not cover it up. I wish the same could be said for public servants. I am learning that upper management may be one reason why middle management appears so misdirected. Remember, career bureaucrats are responsible to the executive branch, not the legislative or judicial branches. Too many times people seek redress from the politician. They look to the wrong source because it is so darn hard to reach the upper echelons of the executive branch.
In spite of this latest episode, all is well, but it could be a lot better. Our Alleghany miners are sacking gold in two headings. Nothing big, but we have the scent and are on the trail. My Empire miners continue to break rock in the heart of Grass Valley even as a relentless opposition continues to rain down from somewhere.
in reply to: EMPIRE STRIKES BACK #2302My heart tells me that breaking rock will ultimately overcome the crap of obstruction, whether it’s up at OAu or down there in Nevada City where there seems to be an endless display of paper and lack of scissors, I’m stuck a bit between wanting to re-direct our eneregy to succeed from self-achievement, all alone from within the private sector, to also (rather than instead) include the potential positive impact of our cut-the-crap governor, should we make a little noise.
When I heard that Mike had to temporarily shut down the adit rehab project at the Empire because someone complained of the lack of ventilation…get this, within twenty feet of the open sky, I pose these questions:
Do we need to go to the top, yet? Should we? At what point do we engage the sitting governator to synergistic ends? (Can’t you just see Arnold at the end of the drill, after spouting the final words, “Let them break rock.”)
I’m seriously torn here, because naturally I think it could/would happen, since the “$&#*&8” is so deep and the current directive of Gov. Arnold is to cut the fat and engage private-sector success, let alone the history of how and why it got this far. But more importantly, I’m not sure it’s time to engage the ‘disconnect’ I know Mike has been fighting so dilligently for; and fighting because he’s right.
Hey you guys, chime in.
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2301Also see: Calif. Division of Mines & Geol., County Report 6.
Midas (Gold Hill, Harrison Gulch, Victor & Twinvict) Sec.3,4 & 10, T.29N., R.10E. Owner Adele Moore, 608 Mid Ricon Rd., Santa Rosa.in reply to: Miscellaneous #2300I found this article on the web about the Midas Mine. Go to:
http://www.treasurenet.com/westeast/data/feature/robots/200108.htmin reply to: Miscellaneous #2299In the process of going through old family papers and organizing things, I recently came across stock certificates for the Harrison Gulch Mining Company totalling 7,100 shares at a buck each. These shares were bought by my late great uncle in 1920 and 1921. In doing some research I have figured out that this mining company had two mines; the Midas and the Victor, both up in Shasta County near the town of Knob. Along with the stock certificates is a geological report of the area and both mines and the potential for gold in each. Evidently the Midas Mine had a fire in the main shaft back in 1914 and it subsequently flooded. I don’t know if it still is or not or if it has been since re-opened. That is why I am telling this story to see if any of you out there know anything or want to know more of what I have come across. There is also a letter written by a MG Henry from Sumner WA who bought the mine because it was in tax default since 1916. He evidently bought it in 1926. So let me know what you know – if anything.
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2298A little more than all the snow in Reno but not as bad.
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2297how deep is the snow this year ps tell ian to get back to work
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2296how deep is the snow this year ps tell ian to get back to work
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2295Troy,
The answer to your question is another question. Why do you want to know? There have been some people out there of late that have asked some pretty narrow questions of people in industry so that they could show a negative outcome of their hard work and to pad their own agendas. I hope that you are not one of those people. Perhaps if you were to write, call, or e-mail for a report from the 16 to 1 they might be more than happy to send you one. It doesn’t hurt to ask. Besides, looking at one years production report doesn’t tell you much more than just that. You really need to look at the history of the mine or, at least the last fifteen years. You need to factor in the amount of gold produced, labor, cost of daylighting, energy, price per ounce, market value of specimens per ounce, updated equipment, etc., etc., etc. Sometimes, a question can be to simple because, the answer doesn’t mean anything. It might also be the case that they can’t tell you that since they’re a stock held company. And, since I’m not a member of the 16 to 1, I don’t know either.in reply to: Miscellaneous #2294Does anyone know,concerning the Sixteen to One Mine how much gold was mined in 2004 and the cost per ounce to produce that gold?
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2293Does anyone know,concerning the Sixteen to One Mine how much gold was mined in 2004 and the cost per ounce to produce that gold?
in reply to: From the Sixteen to One Archives #2292One of the more exotic exploration targets at the 16:1 mine is referred to as the lost winzes and is described in a report by C.C. Derby dated 12/9/30. While gravel mining (mining for gold in a Tertiary channel) through the Eureka tunnel in 1907 and 1911 a quartz vein was encountered at the center of the Red Star claim which produced 13,000 ounces of highgrade gold. Very dangerous conditions which included swelling ground and large amounts of water caused the area to be abandoned before all the gold could be removed. The reported production appears legitimate. Attempts to get to this area in 1919 and 1961 resulted in failure probably a result of survey errors. The 1961 attempt was under the direction of Fred Searls, geologist and former President of Newmont Mining.
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2286Dear Mike,
A biologist or a Doc may explain it better. But putrefaction is setting in and since gas is lighter, the egg floats. It’s the same reason that a drowned victim’s body rises to the surface after a few days.
Now would someone please find a wire saw?
Best regards,
Dick
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2285I’m impressed with the quick solution about floating and sinking eggs. Now I need some research help. Here is the issue:
Yesterday I sold about $20,000 of slab. Because the material was so heavy (thickness and gold vs. quartz) we lost about twenty-five percent ($5,000) in value to the buyer. We can reduce this lost revenue by using a wire-cutting machine (saw) instead of the blade saws currently in use. Wire cutting machines have been around for years. One cutter is using one but will not tell us how he got it. It cuts a rock similar to the manner that a bread-slicing machine cuts a loaf of bread…many pieces at a time and all the same thickness. The preferred thickness of our largest production buyers is 2.5 mm. Any material over that thickness must be ground away, thereby increasing the cost per unit of the piece of jewelry.The Company will buy or build a wire cutter to accomplish the goal of maximizing the yield of its high-grade. I am not skilled in Internet searching and have exhausted my resources to locate the equipment or someone who can make one. If the FORUM can provide a lady the answer to floating eggs, maybe it can help us significantly increase our revenue by find a wire saw. This is no joke. We need this badly. We have over 100 pounds of high-grade to cut.
Your help will be appreciated by the entire crew.BY the way, I know why gold sinks in water, but what makes the specific gravity different in eggs?
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2291Gfxgold, good work. This company is in Colorado Springs and will be receiving a call from me on Monday. Their saws are designed for cutting different materials in one object. Cutting quartz and cutting gold are quite different. The diamond wire process is slow but who cares if it increases our net slab and is uniform. Thanks.
The snow depth ranges from two to five feet except where snowplows have created eight-foot piles. Last Tuesday everybody was stuck. The County has done a good job of keeping the Ridge Road open. Black ice is everywhere. The question and answer entries are great. I particularly like dick’s recitation. It reminds me of Will Rodgers, “Mining for gold is a lot different than mining for spinach.” I might not have it right, but I put it at the top of a shareholders’ letter a few years ago.
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2290Mike,
Here is one company that you can talk to and tell them what you want. They will build a custom unit for any purpose. I’m sure that it’s not cheap. They also have standard units. But, if the return per ounce is there, then it’s worth the price. Go to:
http://www.diamondwiretech.com/saws/saws.html
P.S. How deep is the snow in Alleghany now?in reply to: Miscellaneous #2289Dear Troy,
Are you asking about the 16:1 or worldwide production?
I can’t answer specifics but I believe that the best reply as to the value of gold was the dialogue in the movie Treasure of Sierra Madre.
Howard, the old man bunking in the Oso Negro hotel, has this to say:
“Real bonanzas are few and far between and they take a lot of finding. Answer me this one, will you? Why’s gold worth some twenty bucks per ounce? A thousand men, say, go searching for gold. After six months one of ‘em is lucky – one out of the thousand. His find represents not only his own labor but that of the nine hundred ninety-nine others to boot. Six thousand months or fifty years of scrabbling over mountains, going hungry and thirsty. An ounce of gold, mister, is worth what it is because of the human labor that went into the finding and the getting of it. There’s no other explanation, mister. In itself, gold ain’t good for anything much except to make jewelry and gold teeth. Gold’s a devilish sort of thing anyway.”
B. Traven wrote the book, and if you’re interested in Mexico, he’s the one to read.
Best regards,
Dick Davis
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2288Does anyone know how many ounces were produced last year and the total expense to produce one ounce of gold?
in reply to: Miscellaneous #2287Does anyone know how many ounces were produced last year and the total expense to produce one ounce of gold?
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